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Last answer on Nov 4, 2009 1:47:12 am GMT Sabrina, on Sep 27, 2008 5:42:23 pm BST 
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Hello,

I had a hard drive failure and bought a new Segate SATA Internal Hard Drive. As you can see it works fine. But I cannot get my second Western Digitial EIDE Hard Drive recognized. It has no oeprating system just ALL my personal files and stuff. I have tried every configuration I can think of with no luck. Any help greatelt appreciated!!

Thanks!

Configuration: Windows XP
Internet Explorer 6.0

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tjmartineau, on Sep 27, 2008 9:54:17 pm BST
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Do you have an IDE CDrom or DVDrom drive?

If you do, use that IDE and power cable and jumper setting.

Take the cdrom drive out.

Look at the back of it, where the ribbon cable and power cable are, there should be a white or black jumper on a couple of pins.

Look at that setting, and set your old hard drive to match it.

Plug your old hard drive into that IDE and power cable, making sure you set the jumper correctly.

Power on and check to see if you can see it now....if not, listen to the drive, is it spinning up, can you hear any odd noises, grinding, ticks...let me know.

TJ

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Sabrina, on Sep 27, 2008 10:57:10 pm BST

Okay I did just like you said. My IDE DVDRom was set as master so I set the old hard drive as master ran them both off the same IDE and power cable - still doesn't show up. It's spinning and not making and strange noises. :o(

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kiki, on Sep 28, 2008 12:01:21 am BST

Ola

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tjmartineau, on Sep 28, 2008 12:20:17 am BST
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Don't have the dvdrom connected at all, just have the hard drive connected on that cable.

That way, Primary boot will be your sata drive
your old hard drive will take your dvdrom's drive letter (D)

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Sabrina, on Sep 28, 2008 12:24:41 am BST

Okay then what do I do with the CD Rom???

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tjmartineau, on Sep 28, 2008 1:14:40 am BST

Ahhhh,

I see your quandry. Leave your dvdrom drive out for the time being. Boot your system up, you should be able to then go to my computer, and see your old hard drive. Open it up, copy your old files that you need (songs, pictures, documents...) to your new drive. After your sure that you have all your files, shut down, remove the old drive and hook your dvdrom drive back up, boot as normal and you're good.

Make sense?

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Hey, on Oct 9, 2008 8:19:51 pm BST

NO

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Maniac1914, on Dec 4, 2008 4:49:02 am GMT
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You need to go into Windows disk management to put the HD online, and select the kind of partition you want it to be on. I have a blank IDE Drive that I installed and it wasn't recognized until I went into disk managememnt, put it online, and formatted. Once you get to disk management it is pretty self explanatory. It will show you all of your drives & sizes. right click on your installed drive and put it online first. This should at least get you started.

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cheefdapot, on Jan 9, 2009 4:48:33 pm GMT

Dude!!!! thanks i really didnt want to have to mess around with dos and fdisk

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NickNYC, on Feb 15, 2009 9:49:28 am GMT
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LEARN TO READ BEFORE YOU POST.

YOU JUST INSTRUCTED THE GUY TO REFORMAT OVER HIS OLD STUFF ON HIS DRIVE.

YOU CALL THAT A TIP? HE GOT A NEW DRIVE AND CANT ACCES THE OLD ONE THAT HAS HIS STUFF ON IT....

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911, on Oct 29, 2008 5:32:15 pm GMT

I hav d same problem...but i tried the jumper thing and everything...stil doesnt recognize....emoved the dvdrom completely....

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Krynn, on Nov 3, 2008 4:57:42 am GMT
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& guys, i have the same problem too! i have 3 hdds, 1 40gb, 1 80 & the last 1 160gb. they all have ide connections. yesterday it all worked fine than i upgraded the motherboard, the new 1 has sata connection to, but i dont use it, only the 2 ide pins. everything seemed to work fine, bios recognised every hard, the dvd writter too, but when i tried to do a windows instalation it asked me where i wanna put the new system? on the 40 gb or on the 160 unpartitioned space (wich should have had 3 partitions!) or on the 3rd hdd with 2 partitions. i got scared & pulled out the 160 gb hdd, letf the other 2 & proceeded with the instalation. all went fine but in "my computer" the 160gb hdd doesnt show up, like it has vanished even though bios recognizes it. i've tried everything, changed cables, ide connectors, positions, jumpers, it still doesnt see it.
HELP ME pls with some ideas. thanx in advance

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NickNYC, on Feb 15, 2009 9:53:58 am GMT
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Walking you through that would take too long and be too dificult.. so many posible problems... make sure you didnt do any Auto Format / Install cr*p and wrote over your old files.. or deleted your partition when you installed...


Bring it to a pro or a friend to look at.


http://www.EpicDataRecovery.com

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steve_z, on Nov 11, 2008 1:34:36 am GMT

I also have the same problem and im guessing it came about by loading windowes onto a new/fresh system and not having my 750gig sata connected at the time. lik krynn i chickened out and disconected it so as not to format it.
But how do i get it back without starting over

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Krynn, on Nov 12, 2008 8:30:58 am GMT
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I'm bk with some answers, but maybe just not the 1s 2 ur questions :). i've managed 2 salvage all my data using getdataback, all i can say is: its an awesome program! however i still dont know what caused the incident & how am i going 2 avoid it in the future.
but now comes the hard part. i'll format the hdd in the next days, i just hope that it'll work again & windows wont have any problems recognising it. if so, than it'll make a nice piece of furniture :)).
just that i dunno how am i going 2 b able 2 trust that hdd ever again with important data.
have a nice day guys!

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Same problem, on Nov 11, 2008 5:36:37 am GMT

Some people will say you are wrong but that is not the case. I put an old 80 gig drive in a computer with xp service pack 1 on a 100 gig drive that has been in service for 6 years. It is partitioned into 3 partitions and has worked perfectly. But it refused !! to recognize the 80 gig drive.

The 80 gig drive IS recognized in the bios. It already had a copy of xp service pack 2 on it, I was putting it in for backup of the original drive. I booted from the 80 gig drive. It recognized the original drive, but of course did not have all the setup for programs on it. I tried different configurations with the old drive but the only way it would recognize the 80 gig drive was when I plugged it into a USB dongle and mounted it as an external drive. I did not try it on the secondary IDE channel, only the primary. But I did try it as both master and slave, no difference. The original drive with the older XP version refused to recognize the second physical drive!

The problem has to be with my version of XP. I don't know why, and I haven't put in a lot of time to try to figure it out because I only needed the drive for backup. The system may be a bit convoluted but I can use it for that. If I find an answer in the near future I will post it here.

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Same problem, on Nov 11, 2008 6:39:34 am GMT
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Alright, this sparked my curiosity and I did some digging....
And it makes me feel really dumb!!!!!

When XP is installed with one hard drive, apparently the default is to not expect a second drive to be added!

The fix is to go to Control Panel; System; Hardware; Device Manager; IDE ATAPI controllers; Primary channel, properties; Advanced Settings; and make sure the Device 1 device type is set to Auto instead of None....

Reboot windows and it will recognize the second drive!

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stew, on Nov 20, 2008 12:03:24 am GMT

I actually have the same issue. bios will recognize my 2nd hard drive but i am not able to access it through my compluter. i tried what u said to do to change it to auto and everything was already set to auto. do you have any more ideas.

asus p5q mobo
nvidia 8800 graphics card
WD 750 GB hard drive.
Seagate 250 GB hard drive
4 gigs ram
intel 8800 quad 4
750 watt cooler master power supply
Blu-ray burner/player

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diggleydog, on Nov 24, 2008 1:18:59 pm GMT
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Go to start > control panel (switch to Classic View) > administrative tools

> computer management > storage : disk management

your second disk will show, but not active(initialized)

need to make active by right clicking on window that represents then drive
then make active partition(drive)
select to create partition (if applicable)
select format (if applicable)

wait and drive will change status to "healthy" at top windows and your drive/data will now be accessible and visible in 'My Computer'


Sorted!

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Roman, on Nov 25, 2008 9:22:53 pm GMT

I tried this and it does not show up in the administrative disk management tool. If I uninstall my second drive in device manager and search for hardware changes it will find it again but I still cannot access it.

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Movi, on Dec 8, 2008 8:17:09 pm GMT

Just wanted to say, i never knew that - but then again this is the first dual laptop i have ever knowingly used.

Cheers, i wanted to praise your willingness to help.

Cheers.

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tiopiu, on Dec 23, 2008 10:11:44 pm GMT

It is showing as healthy but not showing up???

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tjmartineau, on Dec 23, 2008 11:00:25 pm GMT
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Did you format the drive? (In disk management, where it's saying healthy, right click and format)

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Black Skunk, on Dec 24, 2008 2:38:10 pm GMT

Diggleydog

I am one of the many pepes that had the same problem.
Installed a second drive as a slave
Bios saw it but my computer did not

I tried what you said and with a few mods it worked
All I can say is THANK YOU for your generous help

Have never had this problem before
How the hell is a non-expert like me supposed to know all that???
I presume that this is due to XP
If it is, MS deserve a k*ck up the backside!!!

Computer systems are still way too complicated for the average user!

Anyway...Thanks again M8

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shihadchick, on Jan 4, 2009 2:55:33 am GMT

Just wanted to say thanks a bunch - I'd been going nuts with the same problem and having that laid out clearly helped me figure it out. Cheers!

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lucinda, on Dec 5, 2008 10:57:26 pm GMT

"i actually have the same issue. bios will recognize my 2nd hard drive but i am not able to access it through my compluter. "


I killdisked the second hard drive and neither DOS nor win95 could then recognise it. It did show up in the BIOS.
I had a brainwave this morning. I own a copy of Partition Magic and I wondered if PM could do it.
IT COULD!!!!

I created a logical partition with PM which could then be seen by DOS and Windows. But the partition is smaller than the actual size of the hard disk. I have not yet found a way to enlarge it to the full size.

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Tina, on Nov 23, 2008 2:37:37 pm GMT

I am having the same problem. I would like to get the files off an old hard drive and your solution sounds like it would work for me. But what is a USB dongle?. Is it a special type of USB cable that has an IDE connection on the other end? I don't see where I would plug a usb into my old maxtor internal HD.

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tjmartineau, on Nov 29, 2008 2:59:23 am GMT

Tina,

I'm not sure of this USB dongle adapter either. You need a power connection and an IDE cable to get your drive working. Either buy an external IDE hard drive case ($25-75), or simply open up your case, set the drives jumpers to slave or cable select, disconnect your cdrom drive, connect those cables up to the old hard drive, boot up your PC, copy your files over, shutdown, disconnect the hard drive and reconnect your cdrom. I think I explained it better earlier in the post.

If this is really confusing to you, let me know, and I'll simplify.

TJ

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floptheshot, on Dec 7, 2008 10:41:53 pm GMT

Hi all im new to the site but have info on how to set a secondary drive up so you can see it via mycomputer
First click on run and type indiskmgmt.msc and hit entre. Make sure it's online and formated, then click on the new drive and right click it then go to (change drive letter/path) and add it, it will then pop up in your (my computer)

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Handyman, on Feb 11, 2009 8:13:36 pm GMT

I saw your solution of xp not recognizing the slave drive but when I typed in indiskmgmt.msc under run it stated it could not find this - is the spelling correct???

Thanks
John N.

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NickNYC, on Feb 17, 2009 12:20:15 am GMT

Diskmgmt.msc

Carefull!

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NyteFyre22, on Jan 3, 2009 10:20:49 pm GMT

diggleydog
Thank you so much, I was about ready to pull my hair out because I could not figure out how to make windows recognize my new hard drive. Followed your directions and it worked perfectly!

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rocky, on Jan 18, 2009 2:03:34 am GMT

I had the same problem and the following worked for my Hp Pavilion with WinXP

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go to start > control panel (switch to Classic View) > administrative tools

> computer management > storage : disk management

your second disk will show, but not active(initialized)

need to make active by right clicking on window that represents then drive
then make active partition(drive)
select to create partition (if applicable)
select format (if applicable)

wait and drive will change status to "healthy" at top windows and your drive/data will now be accessible and visible in 'My Computer'
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Thanks everyone
Pete

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cruzer, on Jan 18, 2009 11:43:11 am GMT

Really apreciate it ppl u guys helped a lot and thankx to u guys my hdd is ready
for stuff to fill it :D

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Legerguy, on Jan 20, 2009 1:40:04 am GMT
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I want to add my thanks...was having the same prob.... look it up and your total answer was here......thamk you very much

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Xproject187, on Apr 19, 2009 11:42:31 pm BST

4:37 PM 4/19/2009
Well thats all fine for You who got it sorted out & I'm glad for Ya,
But in My case the Slave drive( Fujitsu) IS indeed seen in BIOS!! But is NOT seen in XPproSPII nor XP's tool known as Disk Managment "not healthy nor in any other state" & as such I can't set it active because I can't see it in Disk Managment !!! http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q240/Xproject187/PC%20Pix/SlaveNotSeen.jpg

What gets Me is the fact that I know the Drive works! because I had it set as a Slave on another PC.
Please rest assured that on a 80 wire EIDE Ribbon w/a Quantum set as Master & a Fujitsu set as Slave the jumpers & ribbon positions are set correctly !!!!
So for those who think this is a cut & dry issue thats solved by M$'s Disk Managment tool, well I'm here to tell Ya The Issue Is Still Here!(It Happens)
~X~

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 not a geek, on Nov 4, 2009 1:47:12 am GMT
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Did you find a solution to your problem with your hard drive not being recognized? I have the same issue. I recently reloaded xp pro and now it will not recognize my 500 hd. It is seen in bios but not in disc mgmt.

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bensun, on Jul 3, 2009 8:13:27 pm BST

I read the above great info then i read this problem still occurs and i think that that is a load of well you know what, but so far my new hard drive 750gb wd was recognized by bios and windows just not mycomputer so ive tried the above and thus far i have success it is there in disk managment, its still formatting the next issue i have is that my cd writer is powered only by sata cables and ive just found out im short of one back to the shop it is.

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